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If the rail line were replaced by a freeway exit, we could feed the ferry with so many more commuters.

The workshops are currently ended after the Mayor of Larkspur suggested that we must be crazy if we think that any development that means more than 6,000 people living in SQ will EVER get passed by the voters
Nevertheless a Plan has been prepared (pdf).
What happened at the Jan 11th 2003 Workshop ? 
Suggestions made at the Jan 11th 2003 Workshop ? 

The Plan :-Two mixed use alternatives assume 2,000 or 3,500 housing units. The average density range of the 2,000 unit alternative assumes an average of 14 units per acre, where the 3,500 unit alternative is closer to 30 units per acre. Both of these alternatives would concentrate development central to the commercial areas. There would be a parking structure for the ferry with capacity upwards of 8000 cars. 

More minutes of meetings:

San Mateo - Caption Below What  WE  have to look forward to    -   like San Mateo
providing 206 new residential units, including 31 affordable units,
National Award for Smart Growth Achievement 2002 Winners - City/County Association of Governments of San Mateo County (C/CAG)

Category: Policies and Regulations
Project: Transit Oriented Development (TOD) incentive Program

Redwood City Caltrain Station.

San Mateo’s TOD Incentive Program uses transportation funds to help communities that build more housing near rail stations. It spurs construction of needed housing and creates environmental benefits by giving people the option of commuting and running errands by rail. This program directly links land use with efficient use of the existing transportation system.

To address a housing shortfall, reduce congestion, and improve environmental quality,
Unfortunately this will not happen. Denser development will increase congestion and associated air pollution. Why? Because too few people will use the train.
the City/County Association of Governments of San Mateo County (C/CAG) provides incentives for land use agencies (20 constituent cities as well as the county) to create housing near transit stations. C/CAG allocates up to 10 percent of State Transportation Improvement Program funds for the San Mateo County TOD Incentive Program. The program provides a financial incentive for local land use authorities to develop housing near transit stations.

Under the program, a jurisdiction receives incentive funds based on the number of bedrooms in the housing units. Typically, eligible projects receive up to $2,000 per bedroom. In order to be eligible for the program, housing must be within one-third of a mile of a rail transit station, and density must be at least 40 units per acre. In the event that the program is oversubscribed, C/CAG may reduce the funding per bedroom or provide additional funding to the program. Land use agencies only get the funding once the units are built or are under construction. Funds are then used to support improvements either on- or off-site as determined by the land use agency. In addition to direct transportation improvements, some general improvements such as landscaping, lighting, sidewalks, plazas, and recreational projects are allowed.

For the first cycle, October 1999 to September 2001, C/CAG programmed $2.3 million to the TOD Incentive Program to support development of 1,282 bedrooms in five projects. The second cycle, February 2002 to February 2004, has programmed over $2.9 million for 10 projects to facilitate the creation of 2,407 bedrooms.


Interest from Other Jurisdictions
The "success" of C/CAG’s TOD Incentive Program has encouraged other jurisdictions to implement similar programs. The Metropolitan Transportation Commission, the metropolitan planning organization for the San Francisco Bay Area, adopted a Housing Incentive Program based on C/CAG’s model. Legislation being considered at the state level would create a similar program. Sacramento, Fresno, and Monterey Counties (in California) are also considering similar programs.

Integration with Transportation Planning
The TOD Incentive Program recognizes that coordinating land use and transportation is critical to achieving an efficient transportation system and making the best use of tax dollars. C/CAG’s approach is an innovative use of transportation funds that provides incentives to land use decision-makers to achieve transit-oriented development.

Sounds like they know what they're doing don't they?

How many people aspire to live with no garden, neighbors thru the wall playing their stereo, dog barking, having to keep the blinds down for privacy, and no privacy outside either?
How much have they got transit right, in the past? 
What happens to rail if business moves out of the city? 
How much do YOU want to live next to a railway line?
What are the chances of the train dropping you off within walking distance of your work?
Will the train run frequently enuf for you to endure the waiting and scheduling?
Will the expense of rail detract from a more flexible bus service in suburbia?
How many people will need to take the train to make any significant change to freeway congestion?
How should our tax dollars be most cost-effectively spent to make the biggest difference to traffic congestion &  air pollution? 
Find out what history has told us already at

San Quentin Prison Reuse

The Marin County Board of Supervisors recently convened a planning committee to look at various reuse options for the San Quentin prison site . As the Marin Countywide Plan is currently being updated, this presents an ideal opportunity to look at what potential reuse could occur.

 This location could be a transportation hub surrounded by housing, while keeping adjacent San Quentin Village. A well-designed vision for the property can be ready for implementation.

The charge of the committee is to evaluate various opportunities and constraints on the site and bring forth land use recommendations for inclusion into the Countywide Plan update process. It is envisioned that the San Quentin Reuse Planning Committee will continue to meet through the end of 2002 and present their final recommendations to the Planning Commission and Board of Supervisors in March, 2003.

The Committee meets on a monthly basis. Meetings (see below) are open to the public and are normally held at the San Rafael Corporate Center, 750 Lindaro Street, San Rafael, in the evenings.

Committee  Members 
Membership and representation of the fourteen-member committee is as follows:
San Quentin Reuse Planning Committee
Steve Kinsey, Chair, Marin County Board of Supervisors
Vision Workshop
Meeting Schedule and Proposed Topics
Meeting Agendas and Minutes
Additional Links
Alex Amoroso, Housing
Al Boro, City of San Rafael
John Dupar, Town of Corte Madera
Phil Frank, Historic Preservation/Culture
Paula Gutierres, California Department of General Services
Huey Johnson, Environment
Larry Lanctot, City of Larkspur
Dana Miller, San Quentin Village
Jessuina Perez-Teran, Social Equity
Annette Rose, Sonoma-Marin Area Rail Transit
Stephen Roulac, Commercial/Business
Sim Van der Ryn, Energy/Renewable Resources
Bill White, Real Estate

The State Department of General Services completed a report in 2001 which analyzed potential reuse scenarios of the San Quentin prison site in PDF and the relocation of the existing facility and programs. The three scenarios in the report are not intended to be recommended land use alternatives but rather provide data and background analysis for the site.    County's San Quentin Pages:

   Meeting Schedule and Planned Topics 

March 13, 2002
San Quentin Planning Process and Calendar  -  The State as Property Owner and Surplus Property Disposal   Surrounding Land Uses 
April 10, 2002 Natural Assets and Opportunities - Shoreline, Ridges, Access    -    Historic Buildings – Preservation and Reuse
May 2, 2002 Circulation On and Off Site – Auto, Pedestrian, Bike       -        Transit - Ferry, Rail, Bus
June 12, 2002 Housing       -       Commercial Mixed-Use Opportunities
July 10, 2002  Prison Operation and Programs, Closure Alternatives
Community Benefits Community Needs – Schools, Child Care, Public Facilities
September 11, 2002 Community Design        Energy and Utility Infrastructure   Innovative Building Practices
October 9, 2002 Bringing It All Together – Coalescing the Vision 
November 13, 2002 Illustrating the Vision - Creating a Graphic Representation     -      Conduct Public Workshop (separate meeting
December 11, 2002 Review Input from Public Workshop        -        Prepare Draft Recommendations
January 8, 2003 Review Draft Recommendations and Refine
February 12 2003 Adopt Final Recommendations
3. Where Do We Go From Here? 6:15
How we'll take the input from the community workshop along with
Information learned from previous meetings to develop and refine
4. Visioning Workshop Summary Report 6:20
Discussion of the report outlining Visioning Workshop themes and
5. Options Brainstorming 7:00
Using the six subject areas from the workshop along with workshop input
as a basis, identify and discuss options for potential reuse of the site.
March 12, 2003 Survey Outcomes Review the outcomes from the survey to identify areas of consensus. Discuss comments received.
 Refining the Recommendations
Continue our discussion from last month refining the draft recommendations and graphics.

   Wed Mar 12 6pm SR Corp Center 750 Lindaro SR
 Share a Meal 6:00  Dinner is provided for members of the Planning Committee
Public Comment 8:40